Thursday, July 26, 2007
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All Wikipedians are equal but some are more equal than others - The palace AirMail ^ ^ 23:23, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
Declaration (made together with criticism of members of the clique) cost the brave Italian wikipedia user The Palace of a block of one week.
What follows' appeared in the Bar of the Commons Italian two days before the shocking revelation of Nyo (?) on the admission of Valepert (a chat) the existence of the crack (shown in the front my post):
....." REGULATE THE Clique
Hi, I just read the old discussion "Wikipedia and its problems (trying to look at things with a bit of 'detachment)" and I must say that I think the problem is not so much' eventual formation of a "sect" or "corporation" internal, as each person is to himself. The problem is another, that is, when one of them foot down and bitter towards anyone in particular for any reason this early. The problem comes from here, and that is where the admin together sbarellano and behave really herd. Even before the most obvious reason by any user 's attacked by' admin in question, of course. Because if the 'user had actually wrong in front of the' intervention of 'admin then it is understandable. I do not mean that wikipedia is an oligarchy, even though you should create a sort of "discipline" and outside the admin that controls the behavior of the admin in respect of the normal users and that users could hurt to go in case of abuse suffered by the admin. In order to fairly decide who is right. As the 'current lack of fairness and control is the opposite of democracy .-- 151.21.208.182 06:34, 22 July 2007 (EDT) ...
If it were me, I would suggest a formula, however, opposite to that reported by many: I would leave a corner, why not, right here at the bar, leaving the free cicaleggio venting of resentment, among whom there may be reports of any mistake in good faith. Any system that does allow a form of criticism, possibly good-natured. A great man in times like Concetto Marchesi certainly not free, did the excitement of the theater in Rome where you could say Porro, quirites, libertatem perdimus and Caesar, instead of anger, rewarded the author. For me the answer to the charge of being self-deprecating crack is the famous photo, not a systematic call to cut off the speech .-- Mizar (ΞΆ Ursae Maioris) 17:05, 22 July 2007 (EDT ).....
Your proposal to create a corner of admirers in the bar does not convince me much. Or rather, let's do it if we're in a sub hidden, but not at the bar. Why is not the place (a meeting point and training ground for discussion and verbal scuffles) and, especially, because they watch us from outside: the bar is the place where you can fish more easily and to emphasize what is perhaps only a little shame. Ok, hide the skeletons in the closets is not the best procedure, but also make advertising too small scuffles chiozzotte ... ----{ G83 }---- 17:46, 22 July 2007 (EDT )..... Especially
Whereas the message is from someone who has been blocked for repeated copyviol, and that has escaped the block several times to give reason alone. - Brownout (msg) 21:37, 22 July 2007 (EDT ).....
Copyviol you say so!! It is not true at all!! And what if I'm stuck if I do not write like that? It is not my fault if I was stuck! Think for a moment, then: If I do not care anything about wikipedia, after the treatment to which I was (and still are) subject anyone else would have gone, slamming the door in the future and caring about everyone and everything, and instead I I'm here to understand the 'injustice suffered by me (and maybe who knows how many others?) and the danger to entrust certain responsibilities to certain people that are out of control and damage the strong man 'with a' more wrong even before the more obvious, as a true flock in 'attack the weakest link. And what you wrote above is the confirmation! Beyond me how such a selection policy of wikipedia admin may have developed as it is now ... But I like the ability of the Polish section of the Italian and later .-- 151.21.209.96 08:37, 23 July 2007 (EDT )...."
By now speak of the crack and 'became a commonplace of discussions between Wikipedians, not only to the Bar of course there are the usual criccaroli who deny the existence of their group (a bit 'as they do in Sicily mafia on the existence of the Mafia ...), but the reality 'is more and more' to the surface.
And it 'more and more' imperative to create a kind of senate Wikipedian "(as I have already 'explained) that acts as a control group of these admin, before they damage irrimediabilmene the Italian Wikipedia. Prof. Maria Rubino
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