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This time I want to write my post now that there are many who criticize the crack in the Italian Wikipedia.

The latest confirmation comes from the "burn" the defeat of Pride "Leoman3000" vote in the office of "Check User" (see http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Check_user/Elezioni), where
There you can 'read the following written by "Vulkano"


Comments * Council to all, who voted or not, to consider the user in question belongs to a clique and it's definitely ruling to play one of our most-sensitive and requires absolute integrity, which in the CU. We list only the poster of the crack: admin # be, or to have been made; # be eminently bad; # Have at least one organized conspiracy against the neighbor, # Having trends mafia / Masonic / policies (check the lobby office); # Receiving at least daily, hoards of insults, spitting and insults by other Wikipedia users. When you vote, keep in mind all that. Vulkano 11:39, 26 March 2007 (EDT) bad day, time change, Monday ... less controversy for all. Vulkano 00:05, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

@ Vulkano:
I am, Cast me from a good part of the community - obviously - had confidence in me.
are not so bad :-)
'm not the kind ... But I do not deny that he had intended to send some depth to that country ... : D

For the clique: a few months ago began this talk about the "clique" by some users (can not remember who, nor I want to remember or know): a sub-user think it's the most useful way to defuse situations that outside the building of the encyclopedia and approach to a forum. If all is to be exploited, not everything is better than this exists at all. If the irony - not aiming to offend - then it can not survive, it would be a sad life. When
voted to keep in mind all that (and not as voted me be clear: I work regularly with or without User Check ...: p) - Leoman3000 15:30, 26 March 2007 (EDT) I just want

add that after my comment one more time I was analyzed by X-ray with a new (second) CU. I understand that the CU should be sought on the basis of a suspect and I suspect that the missing, as it's missing the one who made the request. Obviously I said some things are awkward and strained to find some loophole to get me out. It reminds me of the episode yesterday's report ... Percu it is clear that the only mention the word clique raises the level of attention. I stop here, why not give a damn and I have nothing to hide, but I am crying in silence. Vulkano 15:41, 26 March 2007 (EDT) the same as above. Vulkano 00:05, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

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I must stress that the Manifesto of the crack mentioned above by "Vulkano" demonstrates the shameful behavior of managers (and directors) who belong to it.
What do you think?
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in crisis ?

thank John for his flattering comments. It would not be a bad design to put on a rival to the Italian wikipedia, but I find it very difficult to achieve.

I want to dedicate this third place - like it or not members of the "clique" and their friends Wikipedians - the possibility 'that Wikipedia is in crisis.

course I am referring to the Italian Wikipedia, 'cause the others (especially the main English language) are in good health.



is what they write on www.Blogs4biz . the possible crisis: ".... The news of the resignation of four-system operator or sysop-Wikipedia Italy (Civvi, Cruccone, etc. ..) has rapidly around the blogosphere. The event has generated interest and comments, many of which are worthy of attention. Blogs4biz makes the situation even asking for help to Frieda Brioschi, press officer of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Italy, which throws water on the fire: the crisis is not so bad and still is physiological. The question remains: do you think Italians deserve a free encyclopedia ?..." Comment
:"...... The Italians deserve a free encyclopedia, not an attempt to. While appreciating the spirit of the free encyclopedia there are problems that limit if not prevent, development. Has' reached a breaking point between people, often from time to time, and who add valuable content, the badge of sheriff, pardon administrator, it must impose a hierarchical system and, in part, totalitarian. It attaches great importance to wikicazione pages and little content. Contents are often cut to the bone that no development. TENS OF ADMIN organize to exclude users, or quarrel between their factions. As someone exemplified elsewhere, and 'as if an article was correct Rubia dall'addetto of rotary printing stage of a book written by ....( Exithere )........."

I must add Frieda appeared in '{{User: Senpai / Crack}} removed - coincidentally - in the days when this blog to complain and' started. In addition, one of the worst members of the "clique" and 'you just Jollyroger / Sheriff bad (A non-administrator), quoted in the comment. To read later on the "strike" of directors last February, just go to:
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/SCIOPERO% 21



finally bring this comment released on
http://lapulcedivoltaire.blogosfere.it/2006/01/quando-wikipedi.html , where he cites the following on a possible "SUNSET OF WIKIPEDIA:

" From: The Decline of "Wiki" ? By: Rebel Café [...] The strength and weakness of all of Wikipedia, is the ability for anyone to participate in the preparation, by posting material (almost) total anonymity, by amending, supplementing or adding terms to the encyclopedia. It might screw up this system actually costs a lot to Jimmy Wales, founder of "Wiki": John Seigenthaler, a former Assistant U.S. Presendente of John F. Kennedy, recently branded a Wikipedia entry "as involved in the murder of the President," has now decided to launch a campaign against the managers of the encyclopedia. From the pages of the site
Wikipedia Class Action, Seigenthaler and many others point the finger at the directors of the Wikimedia Foundation, guilty in their opinion that he "washed his hands" of the content present in it, simply collect the material without performing actual inspections on its veracity.
Wikipedia Class Action aims to collect the complaints of those who (individuals or firms) feels or has felt maligned by malicious articles published online encyclopedia. Also, invite anyone you find a mistake or falsehood to contact the "victims of Wiki, signaling them to turn to Wikipedia Action.Una Class Once you have collected the full-bodied dossier of reports and accusations that promises, promises that it will impose Wikipedia Class Action the foundation that runs Wikipedia, also through legal action, the end of the anonymity of content producers, in addition to money damages in favor of those who will be the victim of defamation through the articles.
In fact, the Seigenthaler case is only the latest - and perhaps the most striking - the number of cases of alleged defamation, able to undermine the reliability of Wikipedia. In this case, the article that he was defamed (believed to be unfounded in the absence of physical evidence) was removed after four months of struggle by the former assistant to JFK .[...] It is true that if in the case of public figures critical and very different interpretations on their person are predictable (think only our politicians and the services of various TG), are vastly more serious defamation and insults, disguised in the form of terms, intended to discredit the man whatever, that perhaps will never have the means to be able to rely on. And, unfortunately, would not be the first to Wiki, which has always removed delay the articles in question. It should not be overlooked that the system itself is based on which Wikipedia states that anyone can interact, sometimes doing harm, by providing false information and misleading data. Like everything else on the Web, Wiki is certainly true for the rule of "take it with pliers ".[...]
What is therefore the decline of Wiki? It is unlikely, though perhaps the system of Wikipedia, after the lawsuits on the horizon, potrebbbe emerge deeply changed. But for better or worse ?"..."



What do you think of "Italian in Wikipedia crisis"?
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Why 'Wikipedia Censoring Me?

Thanks for the comments received in my first post. At least it seems that finally some Italian wikipedia administrators are beginning to "discover" that exist and are not a creation of friends ....

however I want to copy the 'Image: Wiki-spaccio.JPG
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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Title: The crack in a time of dealing.
Author: Jacopo Prisco
The image of this page is licensed under the Creative Commons license Attribution - No Derivative Works 2.5 Italy , colloquially known as "cc-by-nd."

I want to be honest and explain that I chose this photo to highlight the "types" of directors who are members dell'autodenominata "clique". Personally I do not think they were peddling "stuff", just joking with each other as mere "high school Oscar."

In the future I will start 'to write in English, to reach directly the management of the Wikimedia in St. Petersburg (Florida) in their language.

WHY 'Wikipedia Censoring Me?

Finally I want to remember that the Italian Wikipedia has been criticized not only by me, so now I quote an evidence (translated into English) on:

WHY 'Wikipedia Censoring Me? Posted on Tuesday, 19 September @ 20:00:00 EDT marcoc
OF JAMES Bacque Serendipity.

"..... In 1989 I published the first of a series of books about the Second World War and its aftermath. The first book, entitled "Other Losses, showed the horrible atrocities committed against enemy prisoners in the prison camps of the United States and France after 1945. The second, Just Raoul, was a biography of a hero of the French Resistance who saved many refugees from Nazi death camps. The third, Crimes and Mercies, described the full extent of all the crimes perpetrated by the Allies against the Germans, and also the wonderful charity work in Canada and the USA in saving 800 million people, including Germans, Japanese and Italian, the risk of starvation in the famine years after 1945. The fourth, Dear Enemy, explained the attitude of the western allies to Germany since 1945. Wikipedia reviews and criticism Other Losses, and only in such a biased way that I finally tried to correct their many errors. Since March 2006 I have been trying for several weeks to correct the errors, but I found that within a day, then within hours, and at the end of minutes, some Wikipedian editor had deleted my corrections, replacing them with of ever more hostile and denigrating. Even some of my friends have tried to correct the flawed Wikipedia article, but found the same situation. At the end we concluded that Wikipedia was deliberately censoring my contributions, it was useless to continue trying to present the facts on Wikipedia. After Serendipity (already aware of the censorship of Wikipedia) became aware of this situation I was offered the opportunity to publish the real story, which appears below. Wikipedia reports that Stephen E. Ambrose stated that Other Losses is "spectacularly flawed ... ..." without saying that Ambrose also wrote that "You have made a major historical discovery ... that span the oceans and will have repercussions for decades, indeed for centuries to come. You have the goods on these guys ... "Wikipedia says that Ambrose has changed his mind only after being hired by the U.S. Army War College to teach in Pennsylvania. And Nor does Wikipedia mention that in his attack on me in New York Times, he admitted that he had done the research necessary to reach the conclusions that he published the same article. Wikipedia fails to mention that Ambrose, quoted as an expert, has admitted that he had plagiarized several other authors. Wikipedia is not concerned with allegations that Ambrose stole work from a graduate student published as his own.
Wikipedia ignores my book, Crimes and Mercies, which goes far towards balancing of western actions after the Second World War. The book shows the great charity extended by the western allies, especially Canada and the U.S., people starving in the world after the Second World War including the Japanese and Germans. Arguing that the overwhelming majority of professional historians reject my work, citing as an authority and a historian who has never worked in this field, Wikipedia does not take into consideration the support that was given to me by the famous military historian, U.S. Army Col. Dr. Ernest F. Fisher, a former Historian of the U.S. Army Center of Military History in Washington. Fisher, who for decades has been a professional historian, wrote the official history of the U.S. military campaign in Italy. I have seen for months in search of documents in the U.S. National Archives, wrote the introduction to my book Other Losses and supported me with public statements for the seventeen years since its first publication. It helped me for many months researching in the archives. Wikipedia does not mention the expert editorial assistance in research and public support given me by the eminent epidemiologist and biostatistician, Dr. Anthony B. Miller, former head of the Department of Biostatistics at the University of Toronto. Wikipedia puts aside the support given to my work by Richard Overy, King's College, University of London; Kimminich Otto, University of Regensburg, Dr. Alfred De Zayas, author of several books on the history of post-war Germany, Prof. Dr. Peter Hoffmann, McGill University, author of many books specialists in the German resistance, the Prof. JK Johnson, Carleton University, Ottawa Professor Ralph Raico, University of Buffalo, Professor Ed Peterson, University of Wisconsin, Prof Ralph Scott, University of Iowa, Professor Pierre Van Den Berghe, University of Seattle; Prof. Dr Richard Mueller, former head of the Department of Inglese, University of Aachen, Professor Hans Koch, University of York and many others. Among the writers who have spoken in favor of my work and I have argued there are Julian Barnes, Nikolai Tolstoy, John Fraser, Master of Massey College, Toronto, John Bemrose of Toronto, Robert Kroetsch, Winnipeg, and many others. My work has been published worldwide in ten different languages \u200b\u200bby Macmillan, Little, Brown, Prior, Ullstein, Sand Editions, McClelland and Stewart, New Press, and many other publishers. Finally, the most glaring omission is that the massive and detailed archives of the KGB in Moscow have millions of documents whose existence confirms the statistical work in Other Losses. The math is simple: about half a million German prisoners alive in allied prison camps after the war never came home, nor were their deaths reported to the German government, their families, the International Red Cross or the UN United. The figure was determined by the Adenauer government in Germany, submitted to the UN, and has never been questioned by anyone else. So when came out in 1989 Other Losses, which declared a death toll of about one million in French and American camps, that left about 500,000 dead to justify. These deaths could have occurred only in the fields of the KGB, as in other camps in the world there were no more than half a million prisoners. So, Other Losses was predicting that when the communists opened the archives of the KGB, they would show the death of nearly 500,000 people. And then, when Gorbachev brought down the communist system and the archives were opened, I went there and found the ratio Bulanova who testified that 356,687 Germans died in Soviet captivity, in addition to 93,900 other civilians caught to replace dead or escaped prisoners for a total of 450,587. This surprising discovery is not mentioned in Wikipedia, nor from any of the other "professional historians." With the exception of one, Stefan Karner, who went to the KGB archives, saw the evidence piled up in enormous quantities, and said he did not believe. Instead, he preferred to publish its estimates confirm the conventional view. Information about books written by James Bacque can be found on his website World War 2 Books . See also Mass Starvation of Germans 1945-1950. In Italian: "The other camp: the prisoners in German camps allies in Europe after the second world war", Milan, Murcia, 1993, BCB BZA 23745James BacqueFonte: http://serendipity.li/Link: http://serendipity.li/hr/bacque_on_wikipedia.htmTraduzione for www.comedonchisciotte.org by LUISA

Comment: This is not the first time that Wikipedia has been caught in an attempt to distort information or discredit others. Just did much the same thing with a regular contributor to this website, Israel Shamir. Despite the willingness to revisit the issue of Shamir, Wikipedia has repeatedly hinted that he was not who he claimed to be. By questioning if Shamir - a former Israeli paratrooper from a long lineage of famous Russian Jews - who he said was , Wikipedia has suggested that Shamir might even be a "Swedish anti-Semite." Of course, it is not but the distortions of Wikipedia help pave the way for such false information and in the end seems to be following its own Zionist. ......"

This second post about "why 'Wikipedia Censoring Me?", The title taken from an interesting publication http://www.comedonchisciotte.org .

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This Blog and 'created in order to denounce the presence in the Italian group of Wikipedia administrators autodefinitisi "THE DIRECTORS' Clique".

this clique is reducing the Italian Wikipedia at a very low level, and certainly not worthy of Wikipedia that we all admire in the world.

report a photo of the group can be found here: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immagine:Wiki-spaccio.JPG

The photo and 'was taken at a meeting of Wikipedians in Siena in 2006 , and you can see five of these so-called administrators at the time of the passing of the "stuff" ....... These would be the

amministrastori the Italian Wikipedia? I seem to Oscar buzz from high school on Saturday night! Professor Maria Rubino